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Mohammad 09-02-2011 03:01 PM

Ldn
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kz52KK5IhOc
( Low Dose Naltrexone ( LDN

أعتقد أن البعض قد سمع عنه
هذ الدواء ليس بجديد و يستخدم لعلاج الإدمان عافانا الله وإياكم
ويأتي بشكلين شراب أو حبوب
وقد اكتشف فيما بعد أنه يؤثر إيجابا على مرضى التصلب اللويحي المتعدد
فهو يقلل من الإنتكاسات ويخفي معظم أعراض التصلب بنفس الوقت

هذا الأمر دفعني بأن أتحرى عن الموضوع أكثر
لقد قمت على مدى الاسبوعين الفائتين بمراسلة العديد من مرضى التصلب وخاصة الأجانب منهم لأن الدواء متوفر عندهم بكثرة في بلادهم وقد كان جميع من رد على رسائلي نصحني بأخذه فورا وأن أترك علاجات التصلب السابقة كالأنترفيرونات والكوباكسون.... وغيرها وذلك لأعراضها الجانبية الكثيرة وضعف أدائها وغلاء ثمنها
فالــ LDN سعره بمتناول الجميع

وقد وصلت لموقع يعرضون فيه تجاربهم مع هذا الدواء وليس فقط للتصلب ولكن لأمراض أخرى أكتشفوا أن هذا الدواء يفيدها أيضا كمرض كراون وALS
والشيء الجميل أن هذا الدواء ليس له أي أعراض جانبية إلا أنه قد يسبب بنسبة %2 أرق في أول اسبوع من استخدامه وأيضا للجراعات العالية منه هنالك توصيات بعدم إعطائه لمن عندهم مشاكل بالكبد طبعا هذل لمن سيأخذه بجرعات تتعدى 300mg
وبالنسبة لمرضى التصلب لن يأخذوا أكثر من 4.5mg مع أن من راسلتهم أخبروني أنهم يأخذون فقط 3mg يعني الجرعة قليلة جدا
و إن شاء الله لن يكون هنالك أي ضرر أو عرض جانبي من هذا الدواء
لكن هنالك مشكلة وهي أنه غير متواجد في بلادنا العربية
ويجب طلبه من الخارج بوصفة طبية

روابط قد تهمكم

علاج للتصلب عندما يتم الجمع بين
مضادات حيوية وحبوب LDN
http://www.wheelchairkamikaze.com/20...s-ldn-and.html

تجارب حقيقية من مرضى جربوا الدواء
الرابط


منتدى للدواء لتجارب ودعم المستخدمين
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موقع مفيد ومهم جدا وهو الذي راسلت فيه مرضى التصلب
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أدوية يجب تجنب أخذها تزامنا مع LDN
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معلومات أكثر عن LDN
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صفحة LDN
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معلومات طبية وصيدلانية عن LDN
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إجابات بعض المرضى عند سؤالي لهم عن LDN
أحببت نقلها لموقعنا لأن الموقع الذي يجيبونني في لا يسع لعدد كبير من الررسائل فأحببت نقل بعضها لنحتفظ بها هنا ولتكون فيها الفائدة للناس أجمع
كبحث متكامل عن هذا الدواء
قمت بتوحيد سؤالي وبدأت إرساله للأعضاء الذين يستخدمون LDN
سؤالي
Hi How Are You Hope You Are Doing Good
Kindly I just want to know Your opinion about LDN is it really works with MS and Since How Long you are taking it and do you suggest it for people who has ms
because my wife has ms and she is using Rebif 44 it is Really costly and i am not feeling that is really works with her
Thanks & Best Regards

الأجوبة
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I started LDN on October 12 2010 It's been almost 11 months, for me after 2 days I could tell the differences I could feel with my finger, I had strength in my hands, my energy level has improved, I have had the same doctor for MS since 2001 I talked to him about me starting LDN after I researched it for a couple of months, and he was like most doctor had not heard of LDN, Well we decided to go for it what did I have to lose nothing.. When I went back and seen him in a month He could not believe the differences I could walk I could touch my nose with my finger. Strength in my hands, had energy to move it was a complete turn around, I feel that with LDN I have a fighting chance over MS, It my not stop all thje systems but what I found in my research is that with LDN it stops the progression of MS, and no side affects they give it to pregnant
moms to stop them from loosing the baby

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Hi Soufitech
I've been taking LDN since November of 2010. It has helped me overcome the extreme pain I had been experiencing for two years leading up to taking LDN.
I am so thankful for what it has done for me - being able to sleep through the night without waking up racked with pain, crying and sobbing quietly so as not to disturb my husband has been a lifesaver. It's amazing the difference that sleeping through the night makes!
As I haven't had any other HUGE improvements as far as I know of, I am endeavouring to rid my body of candida which impedes LDN affectiveness for some.
I recommend that you get her off the drugs, onto LDN as soon as you're able and to look into the Best Bet Diet (BBD) which you can read about on www.msrc.co.uk and also the supplements that they recommend too.
I hope this all helps her (and YOU!!)
Rachael

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I love the ldn. I feel so much better than while I was taking rebif. I sleep better and have more energy

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Hello,

I've only been on LDN since May, but so far so good. I haven't had any relapses at this point and it has almost no side effects. I probably wont know for sure for another 6 months to a year though. Let me know if you have any other questions.
Carla

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Hi!
I have ms too, I've had it for 32 years, I'm not too bad but I started taking LDN 14 months ago and am very happy with the results. OK I know I will never walk without aids again but I feel so well, haven't had a cold, flu or anything since taking ldn, my spasticity has gone, I am able to do more excercises without any pain or stiffness, I am able to get in and out of bed unaided and generally I can lead an almost normal life.
I live in Australia but I do know there are people in the States who take LDN, I pay A79.00 per month which I can manage quite comfortably and I take 4.5 mg each night ..
pilot .
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Hi my name is Paul I have been on LDN for a few years now and it has helped me for fatigue problems and other MS problems and slowing down the progression of M.S I was the first male to try this in Australia for Multiple Sclerosis now there is over 10,000 people over here using LDN I know females can take it in higher dosage because of their hormones please look on LDN Naltrexone web site to find out more information as i take it in liquid form and to be honest i think it has helped me. Please keep me informed on how you are going Take care Paul

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YES I would say to go on LDN!!!! I will NEVER stop taking it..................I used to take Rebif.........a few months and quit it........many side effects, and also Copaxon. Tried that one twice....brought on a relapse for me.
Called shared solutions sooooooooooooo many times and all they say is that sometimes that happens sooooooooooo no longer take that one either.
I take 3mg of LDN a night.. it is a small compound capsule....get it from Skips pharmacy in Fla.mail order...... you can take anything with it and if you are not sure what you can mix with it call or fax skips pharmacy and they will get right back to you about it!!! BUT NO ALCOHOLE EVER!!!!

I also take 5mg of Amprya those are ALL I am on!!!!! ONLY LDN AND AMPRYA
They ( Skips pharanacy) are SPECIALISTS in LDN and VERY VERY reputable..they call you,answer any questions, and mail it (LDN) out to your doorstep within days!!!!
COST???? $25.00 a month INCLUDING SHIPPING.........Google LDN there is A LOT about it and MANY people on here take it also.............check out "knuckes" on here.........he is an advocate on it and we swear by LDN!!!!!!!!!!!

Good luck.....there are different doses of the LDN........only a compounding pharmacy can fill it.
I take the lowest cause I only weigh 88 pounds now. It goes as high as 4.5 mg a night and it MUST be taken between 9:00PM and 3:00AM.........something to do with what the body produces or something.
I took it to a pharmacy by me and I WAS paying $50.00 a month!!!!.....Skips is $25.00 including shipping and it is right to your door..no signature required.
SKIPS DOESN'T TAKE ANY INSURANCE.............they did not use to but you could ask them.
Jan

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Hey - LDN is an experimental treatment for symptoms of MS and has no effect on the disease itself. In Norwayit is not approved by a specialist range but the recipe is printed on the exemption from the general practitioner. Studies have shown so far that LDN can be effective and is now in Phase 2 for approval to theMS.
Personally, I have good experience with LDN. It has dampened especially my symptoms fatique and heatintolerance. In combination with Copaxcone (which is the only brake medicine it can be combined with), mylife has become much better.
My recommendation is to try out to find what works best for your wife. It is difficult to know in advance what will work and it may take time before the drugs reach full effect.
It makes me sad that the economy will be a crucial factor for the drugs used and not what is actually helpingthe individual. But having said that it is not always the most expensive is the best - at least not when it comes to MS drugs.
Have a great day.
Sincerely, Åse

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Hi there! I'm great thanks! Honestly, I cannot give enough raves about LDN! I was on Copaxone for 3 months and I hated every second of it. The injections hurt, my hair fell out and broke off, my skin felt dry and started looking leathery, my nails peeled away and were very thin and brittle and my sense of smell was disrupted.. as everything smelled like a dirty garbage can, and it did nothing for my symptoms. I started taking LDN and the first week I noticed a small change. I was happier, more energetic and I just felt as if a huge weight was lifted off me. It has been 1.5 months now and I am at my optimal dosage or 4.5 mg. The MS symptoms have been going away slowy from the start of the LDN. I feel normal again. Its just amazing. I started running again which has been a passion of mine since I was young. Those CRAB drugs are very expensive. The LDN costs me about $70 shipping included for a 3 month supply :) Let me know what she decides! If she cant get it from her doctor she can get it from a Dr who does phone consultations (this is what I have to do). He is very nice and will take good care of her. He does charge by the minute when you have the appointment, but its only a one time thing. Then when you need refills the conversation only lasts for one minute, and its only once every 3 months.
Take care,
Jami

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Hi, yes I've been taking since March with various benefits at different doese. Finding or getting to the right dose for your own body is sometimes a challenge. It helps to have a doctor who is at least willing to look @ the info on LDN & work with you. I have had tooo many things go on while getting to my dose, so I'm probably not the best person to talk to :-/ Search for "doglovertoo" here; her name is Ginny & she is the most knowledgeable person I've met so far. There are also several people in the FB group "LDN, Got endorphines" (or something like that. If you have a problem finding either, let me know & i'll send you links or more info. It helps to talk to as many knowledgeable people as you can. You can find me on FB as Cindy Welch Strube, if you like. Have a wonderful holiday weekend.
gmombutterfly

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LDN is a very safe drug. Start with 1.5mg and work up to 3mg, then 4.5mg. Somewhere in there, you'll figure out the best dosage. It varies a lot. Stay on whatever drugs you're on, but leave a 4 hour gap before and after LDN - don't take anything in that period. If you wake up at noon and take LDN, that means you can take rebif at 4pm. There's no need to stop taking rebif. Stay on it if you can.
LDN is definitely worth a try. It really helps with the fatigue and fog. The FDA approved it at 50mg, so 10% of that dose strength is safe

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Hi
I personally stopped taking Rebif before starting LDN

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Hi I just saw your message. Yes I started taking LDN on January 3rd 2011 and have been taking it since. I have not had any relapses and I find my mood, energy , speech, anxiety etc. symptoms to be better along with not having a cold or flu. I was on Rebif 44mcg for two years prior to switching to LDN.
I hope this helps and your wife gets better. You may contact me via email if you so desire at roger6615@aol.com.
Regards
Roger

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I was using Copaxone which did keep My MS in remission however due to scar tissue build up it was becoming too difficult to inject the medicine. This is when My Dr. agreed to put me on LDN. I remain stable so am very happy with it. Perhaps You could check to see if drug company would provide an injectable at No/ or lower cost. Another suggestion is to ask Dr. to add LDN which is aproximately $35 monthly. Also if Rebif doesn't seem to be working She may want to try Copaxone. I started out on Avonex which did not work for me in fact I felt worse then I switched to Copaxone which is not an Interferon. Hope and Pray for good health for Your wife and Yourself, May God bless, Gloria

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Sorry it took so long to respond. I couldn't be more of an advocate for LDN. It's the only treatment I've ever used and it has worked wonderfully for me. I was basically symptom free, my vision was good and my legs were strong. I haven't had any progression of my disease whatsoever and I get my MRI's faithfully :) I haven't had a relapse for 6 years. I was always wondering if my disease would have just taken this course anyway, but recently I had the chance to find out if the med was working as well as I thought. I am 25 weeks pregnant and my doctor advised stopping all meds for the baby. Within a couple weeks of stopping the LDN I was having significant weakness in my legs again, fatigue and vision changes. No relapses, thank God, but as soon as the baby's born I will be going right back on it :) I hope your wife is well. If you have any more specific questions please feel free to ask. :)





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Saad 09-02-2011 03:28 PM

أووووووووووووه !
خبر جميل.
وأنا أصلاً أكره طرق العلاج المتبعة حالياً.
يلا، إتكل على الله ودع زوجتك تبدأ به.
إنشاء الله خير

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ياسر ابو مصطفى 09-02-2011 03:52 PM

مشكور اخ محمد على هذا الخبر وان شاء الله يكون خير

جمان ابراهيم 09-02-2011 04:23 PM

خبر كتير حلو الله يبشرك بالخير اخي محمد
وباذن الله يكون بركة رمضان لهالسنة
وكلنا حنسئل ؟؟؟؟
ونعرف كااااااامل التفاصيل
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هنيدة 09-02-2011 04:29 PM

تشكر اخي محمد على تواصلك الرااائع والشرح الجيد
ان شاء الله يعود بالفائده للجميع

جمان ابراهيم 09-03-2011 03:22 AM

اخي محمد
باذن الله يكون ldn هو الخير والعلاج اللي سئلنا الله عز وجل طيييييلة الشهر الفضيل
وانشالله في اكيد ؟؟ قلب مخلص سئله سبحانه فاستجاب له
كلنا متفائلين ......

هنيدة 09-03-2011 06:28 PM

لفت نظري كثير هل الموضوع وجبت معي ::::
ثبت علاج جرعة منخفضة من Naltrkson فعالة جدا في المرضى الذين يعانون من مرض التصلب المتعدد.
هذا الدواء هو النالتريكسون رعايتها المعتادة ، الجرعة المعتادة ، وتحييد المواد الأفيونية المفعول والذي درس آليات لتخفيف الآلام محاكمات تذكر لها.
لكنه أصبح جرعة منخفضة ، النالتريكسون هو LDN ، ويتم التعامل بشكل فعال مع الدواء بشكل ملحوظ Aotoaimioni خلفية الجهاز العصبي.
تطبيق آخر مشترك لها ، هو مرض التوحد ، ويتم إنتاج هذا البلد ، تحت الإشراف ، على انفراد ، في الصيدلية تلقى العلم من الولايات المتحدة.
جرعة منخفضة ، وتقلل من الإفراط في استجابة الجهاز العصبي ويجعل الهجوع كبير في عملية المرض.

مترجم .................................................
وكمان هل الرابط بخصوص هل الموضوع
http://www.lowdosenaltrexone.org/ldn_and_ms.htm

امير 02-28-2012 08:50 PM


جزاك الله كل خير- نرجو المشاركات باللغةالعربي

بجتس 03-11-2012 02:05 PM

وش الفكرة من الدواء هذا ؟

زي مانعرف ان الأبر تعتبر مثبطه للمناعة هم يهبطون المناعة علشان الجسم مايهاجم بعضه

بس ldn وش فكرته وكيف مناسب للأم اس

نسر الشرق 08-12-2012 04:53 PM

السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاتة
انا تقريبا استعمل ldn من ثمانية اشهر ولم يحدث معى تحسن يذكر فما رأيكم هل أستمر فى استعمالة أن أوقف استعمالة أن انة يحتاج لوقت طويل لظهور نتائج ايجابية

هنيدة 08-12-2012 05:05 PM

وعليكم السلام ورحمة الله وبركاته
الصراحه اخي ما اقدر افيدك كثير بهل الامر يعني استشارة الطبيب افضل
بس
اذا ما كان في اعراض ثانويه مزعجه لهل الدواء فاستمر فيه يمكن محتاج وقت اكثر للدواء ....
وان شاء الله ربي بيشفينا جميعااا

snowwhite 08-15-2012 09:08 AM

جميل الموضوع اخ محمد
انا لي شهر ونص آخذ العلاج هذا
ومن اول يوم حسيت بفرق كبير
التعب عندي قل جدا
كنت لااستطيع الجلوس والنهوض الا بمشقة كبيرة والان اجد نفسي خفيفة بعض الشيء
والتوازن تحسن كثيرا واشعر ان وضعي افضل
على الرغم من اني صارلي كم يوم متعبة لكن لااستطيع الاستغناء عنه
حتى المشي اصبح افضل واكثر ركيزة
لكن فيه اعراض جانبية بسيطة هو الارق اول اسبوع مع كآبة خفيفة ههههههههه
لكن ان شاء الله فيه فائدة كبيرة
خذوه وتوكلوا على الله
ابدأوا ب 3 ملغم اول خمسة اشهر
هذه كانت نصيحة الشركة .. بعدها بامكانكم زيادتها عند الحاجة الى 4.5 بإذن الله


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